Henry Spencer wrote:ShinjiPG wrote:Henry Spencer wrote:MG2 is a remake of MG1.
MGS2 is a remake of MGS1.
Really? If I remember correctly, the only possible "remake" relations between games are MG2 with MGS and MG with MGS2.
How is MGS2 not a remake of MGS1? Even Ocelot reveals at the end that the Plant chapter was basically a retread of everything in MGS1.
If anything, MGS2 even satires MGS1.
First of all, by your logic (some posts above), the only original title is MG and all the other games are remakes of MG, except MGS3 and MGS4. That doesn't sound very reasonable to me, because I don't think we have always been playing the same game after MG. And that theory also makes a "remake" a very vague concept, because then we could say, for example, that every Harry Potter book is a remake of the first one, because they share the exact same structure. Or that every Zelda game is a remake of the first one. Or Super Mario. Or the Ys videogame saga. Is Ys2 a remake or a sequel of Ys1? It's kinda hard to tell, by your concept of "remake".
The story of MGS1 happens during one single night. The story of MGS2 doesn't, it's even divided in 2 different parts whith 2 different controlable characters. The number of Bosses is also quite different. Also, the characters aknowledge what happened during MGS1, time has advanced, from MGS1 to MGS2. That said, I don't think there's any kind of "remake" besides The Twin Snakes, in all of the Metal Gear games. Integral, Substance and Subsistence may be considered as such, but it's clear that they're more like a Director's Cut, if anything.
However, there are some specific events in MG that are very similar to some that happen in MGS1. For example, Snake arrives swimming at the beginning of both games. I know there are more, but I just can't remember, since I played MG and MG2 a long time ago. I believe there are some similar situations between MG2 and MGS2 as well, alas I can't remember. I might just play the games again to write them down, one day.
Still, I'm not able to say these similarities proves that the games are remakes (MG->MGS1 and MG2->MGS2), because my vision of remake is different. Also, the official relations of those games are sequels (the story continues one game after another). But I think the similarities in them are stronger and more evident than the ones found between MGS1 and MGS2.
Well, sorry for the long rant.
My vote was that there should be no more Metal Gear games, so I don't have much to add to the discussion. Just that my opinion in this case is similar to Silent Hill: 4 games are more than enough. There's no need to repeat and repeat the same formula and extend the storyline if there's already 4 (or 3) perfect games.