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Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:36 pm
by violentpig
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Someone contacted me saying this chronograph watch was given to Konami europe employees in 98. He's trying to sell it to me. I've got more pics coming and he says it comes in an MGS branded case. Has anyone seen it before? I'm skeptical.

The OINK is there to cover his contact info so nobody else snags it from me. If his asking price is too high I'll forward his contact info.

No oinks when I'm concerned about buying a potentially rare item or avoiding a fake one.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:39 pm
by TSi
ask him what brand it may be... because it look really really similar to a seiko, and seikos dont make fakes...

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:42 pm
by violentpig
TSi wrote:ask him what brand it may be... because it look really really similar to a seiko, and seikos dont make fakes...
Yeah that's a good point. I does look legit because the logo is so small. Usually company watches are like that. I have a company Esquire watch and you can barely see the company logo on the face. I don't work there anymore though so it works out heh.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:55 pm
by TSi
violentpig wrote:
TSi wrote:ask him what brand it may be... because it look really really similar to a seiko, and seikos dont make fakes...
Yeah that's a good point. I does look legit because the logo is so small. Usually company watches are like that. I have a company Esquire watch and you can barely see the company logo on the face. I don't work there anymore though so it works out heh.
if there are more pictures that you have, maybe it would be easier to identify... i mean, im sure there are fake seikos... but no one makes a fake seiko with MGS on it, esp if so little amount is available.

if you check out the chronograph quartz seikos, you can actually find a lot of designs that look the same as this. id say compare them.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:04 pm
by violentpig
Yeah I'm glad you gave me that tip. I *never* thought to ask about the make of watch. I've had the time to look into the guy more, and he's an ebay powerseller and he sells some very valuable items worth much more than this watch so I doubt he'd try to scam me a couple hundred bucks on a crap watch.

I've also enlisted the help of matt from dchq and my arch nemesis niyachan to see if they can verify it as well. Maybe Artemio would know since he's a longtime collector?

BTW, the watch is not on ebay (although the seller is) if anyone is planning on searching for it heh.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:11 pm
by TSi
violentpig wrote:Yeah I'm glad you gave me that tip. I *never* thought to ask about the make of watch. I've had the time to look into the guy more, and he's an ebay powerseller and he sells some very valuable items worth much more than this watch so I doubt he'd try to scam me a couple hundred bucks on a crap watch.

I've also enlisted the help of matt from dchq and my arch nemesis niyachan to see if they can verify it as well. Maybe Artemio would know since he's a longtime collector?

BTW, the watch is not on ebay (although the seller is) if anyone is planning on searching for it heh.
there should also be a unique serial number and model number for each watch type (esp decent company) and if im not wrong, its a seiko... which means that the serial codes should follow the following:

http://www.pmwf.com/Watches/SeikoReferenceNumbers.htm

take a look, ask for the codes, and see if they match up.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:19 pm
by violentpig
Shit you really know your watches.

I got a couple more pix:

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Well, the guy sent me the link to his say and he has about 5 MG watches. One of them is the fossil, another is one I recognize that I can verify is 100% for sure a Konami staff item. He also has other items I don't have that I know exists (like the MGS1 zippo package). Looks like I need some good coin from my auctions that close this Sunday night as I'd love at the very least to get this one from him.

Do you recognize if that's a common Seiko case? he has yet to get back to me on the make of the watch.

I also know someone with some games signed from the 2008 Paris signing I may have to pass on now...I'll see if he's cool with forwarding his contact info in case I have to pass.

Damn I'm getting all serious now. OINK OINK OINK OINK

That'll never get old for me.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:25 pm
by TSi
oh wow, this is one unique box, seikos that i know of dont come in this type of box (but of course, they arent limited edition and whatnot)

im surprised because it look really close to a seiko yet it doesnt say seiko on the plush:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_TxHAPkCye18/SEAZD ... 工塑料表盒H-J+¥:8元.jpg

like something like that. (where it saids SEIKO inside on the top) but damn, the more i look at it, the more it looks like a typical seiko.

wow, 5 mgs watches... now that i need to see (when you grab them)

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:34 pm
by violentpig
TSi wrote:oh wow, this is one unique box, seikos that i know of dont come in this type of box (but of course, they arent limited edition and whatnot)

im surprised because it look really close to a seiko yet it doesnt say seiko on the plush:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_TxHAPkCye18/SEAZD ... 工塑料表盒H-J+¥:8元.jpg

like something like that. (where it saids SEIKO inside on the top) but damn, the more i look at it, the more it looks like a typical seiko.

wow, 5 mgs watches... now that i need to see (when you grab them)
2 are bootlegs for sure, but he's upfront about that.

The other one besides the Fossil watch is:

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Another staff item, this one I already knew about.

So his extremely rare stuff makes me think it's real, his two bootleg watches (which he's not passing off as real) makes me wonder....oh well....I'll work something out. It's exciting to find a potential item like this though. Plus, he has a collection of another video game series that's easily bigger than my MG collection so he seems pretty legit.

He found me through my insanely high priced listings, so I continue to laugh at all those that shit on me (oink mgs:tus forum oink) for doing so.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:39 pm
by TSi
well, if hes saying theres fake stuff that he's selling and real stuff that he's selling, i guess you can kinda trust him on the fact that he's truthful.

but to be save, grab more pictures of the few watches and give it to people u trust to analyze it.

another game series... im going to guess Final Fantasy =P ahahaha, any final fantasy collector can throw their stuff at us and we'll drown in it.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:45 pm
by violentpig
FF stuff is garbage. I wouldn't even eat it out of my trough.

And pigs eat anything!

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:47 pm
by TSi
violentpig wrote:FF stuff is garbage. I wouldn't even eat it out of my trough.

And pigs eat anything!
well, i dont think theres too many BIG game series with a lot of items (unless ur talking about nintendo series... like super mario, but yeah.... tats kinda interesting)

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:21 am
by gixo
violentpig wrote: I've got more pigs coming...
congrats! good luck with the parenting.

That first watch look so good with the very small logo!

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:25 am
by bay
im so happy you guys finally discovered the oink collectables.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:24 pm
by batmanjokergorden
Can someone tell me if this is an official poster?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0276559957

I asked the seller already if this was made by him, and this is what he told me:


- No sir. It made by big printing house in Thailand which already got authorize license to print it (both for sell and promote).

I am not really sure if it is.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:51 pm
by gixo
still worth the 4$ i would say. but not the shipping ><

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:47 pm
by bay
ive indicated this before, but the MGS2 promotional materials were very odd in the states and not that it extends out into asia (since we know that japan did have it's own Konami driven promotional items, posters, etc) but in the states unless you were Gamestop you didn't get any promo materials, you had to print your own.

this could have been the case with this poster as well, as i have bought one of these designs myself not printed on standard stock paper since it was a free for all where and how these promo designs were made.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:04 pm
by TSi
bay wrote:ive indicated this before, but the MGS2 promotional materials were very odd in the states and not that it extends out into asia (since we know that japan did have it's own Konami driven promotional items, posters, etc) but in the states unless you were Gamestop you didn't get any promo materials, you had to print your own.

this could have been the case with this poster as well, as i have bought one of these designs myself not printed on standard stock paper since it was a free for all where and how these promo designs were made.
bay bay bay! you gotta get us some picts =D

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:11 pm
by violentpig
The seller told me the watch was made by:

City Uhren Germany

So if it's German made, I have a bit more faith in it being real (moreso than if Asian made). Although, I have no idea if Germany is known for bootleg items.

TSi would you know any information of this watch company? Of course, his english is rough so maybe there's something lost in his translation. I'm getting mixed feelings on this one, but I figure if I'm not satisfied and I put it up on ebay starting at a penny I'm confident I'd get my money back. LOL I'm such a prick. All oinks stop when I'm talking about shit I wanna buy. At least I admit it.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:29 pm
by TSi
violentpig wrote:The seller told me the watch was made by:

City Uhren Germany

So if it's German made, I have a bit more faith in it being real (moreso than if Asian made). Although, I have no idea if Germany is known for bootleg items.

TSi would you know any information of this watch company? Of course, his english is rough so maybe there's something lost in his translation. I'm getting mixed feelings on this one, but I figure if I'm not satisfied and I put it up on ebay starting at a penny I'm confident I'd get my money back. LOL I'm such a prick. All oinks stop when I'm talking about shit I wanna buy. At least I admit it.
oh wow.. im surprised it isnt a seiko.. "City Uhren Germany"... I've actually never heard of this brand.

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=3277

the only one that sounds close is Churpfälzische UhrenManufactur. i did some search on metal gear solid + that, but ive had no luck.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:23 pm
by violentpig
Yeah..it translates to City Watches Germany....I also found uhrencity.de which is a place that sells watches....

Interesting note I realised - Konami Europe is indeed located in Germany (Frankfurt). So if this item did go to Konami staff in Germany it doesn't surprise me they went with a local German watchmaker.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:39 pm
by violentpig
Here's an image of another staff watch from Outer Resistance HQ - note the similarity of the MGS logo on that one as the picture of the one I may buy...

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Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:48 am
by kul
I've seen this watch some time ago and it was listed as fake, but I can't remember the site.

Here are some pics

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr15 ... /watch.jpg

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr15 ... watch2.jpg

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr15 ... loseup.jpg

Of course I could be wrong, cause it was really long ago.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:20 am
by bay
i dont even wear a watch anymore. pretty soon we'll just have a bunch of chips embedded in our skulls anyway.

Re: Is this an official Konami item?

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:18 am
by TSi
kul wrote:I've seen this watch some time ago and it was listed as fake, but I can't remember the site.

Here are some pics

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr15 ... /watch.jpg

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr15 ... watch2.jpg

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr15 ... loseup.jpg

Of course I could be wrong, cause it was really long ago.
what has the world come to, if such a nice "germany" made product is fake, i wonder how many cars they make are fake =P