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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:10 am
by 8bitsonic
Gaff wrote:You know, I wonder if in the long run, Nintendo will go the way of Sega and focus mainly on software rather than an actual console.
Nintendo (more specifically, Reggie, I think) has said that the day they get out of the hardware business is the day they get out of the software business. So, best not to count on it.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:29 am
by Snake700
Gaff wrote:You know, I wonder if in the long run, Nintendo will go the way of Sega and focus mainly on software rather than an actual console.
Nintendo has said that they wil focus on how fun the games are instead of focusing on graphics

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:45 am
by 8bitsonic
Snake700 wrote:
Gaff wrote:You know, I wonder if in the long run, Nintendo will go the way of Sega and focus mainly on software rather than an actual console.
Nintendo has said that they wil focus on how fun the games are instead of focusing on graphics
Which, unfortunately, will cause death in the marketplace.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:04 pm
by Artemio
i don't share your opinions on Nintendo. In the case of ports, it was usually the PS2 version which was more limited (longer loading, no 16:9 and worse graphics, in some cases not even Prologi II audio). But The GC had some great games, more than the Xbox as exclusives. The Xbox had the best multiplatform versions though, that is for sure but its only advantage at all. The PS2 has the best library.

In this new generation, I believe that each has a specifich niche. Nintendo is low end technically, but it is cheap and game focused.. not to mention the innovative control that might be very important if the companies don't try to use it at any opportubnity. Just look at the DS and how well it did against the PSP.

Microsoft has some terrain advanced, it is only lacking games which wil probably come out. Their focus is moderated, but they are clearly targeting a multipurpose home entertainment center. They don't care about the games, they care about you having thei HW at your home and using it as general machine. It is about not loosing that marketpace to Sony. Media control, communications control. You jsut nee dto look at their numbers. They are also technically in the middle, not giving the huge steps that Sonty is giving towards HD (neitehr in media like HD-DVD or resolution).

And well, Sony is at the other extreme. the most powerful machine, blue ray and 1080p. They are betting their future of media standard control. They want blue ray and cell to become de facto standards, and give that needed push to both technologies so tehy can become mainstream and their other areas can grow.

Of course all of them will try to give us the best games they can build or buy.. and all will have great games. But I hardly see any of them disapearing this time. Neither has it easy, they are all in compomised positions. So it is going to be a fun battle.

I must say that I was pro Sega, and not Nintendo back in the 8 and 16 bit wars... But I believe that Nintendo represents the old school here in more than one aspect, not just by the time it has been there, but by the position it has taken to create games per se as their main target.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:02 pm
by Marc
Snake700 wrote:It´s a lie. I have a couple of copy PS1 games.
Yeah, I know it isn't true. :razz:

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:53 pm
by Gaff
HD and Blu-Ray.

It's VHS and Betamax all over again!

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:17 pm
by 8bitsonic
Gaff wrote:HD and Blu-Ray.

It's VHS and Betamax all over again!
Hopefully not- sooner or later, we're going to get dual-format players, at which point I will buy one and switch to HDTV.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:50 pm
by Snake700
Osiris wrote:
Snake700 wrote:It´s a lie. I have a couple of copy PS1 games.
Yeah, I know it isn't true. :razz:
No it´s true. I have Silent Hill, Metal Gear Solid, and many other games on copy (i do own the original versions now so they don´t have something against me!)

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:52 pm
by Snake700
Snatcher wrote:Microsoft has some terrain advanced, it is only lacking games which wil probably come out. .
Like RPG´s. Unlike Morrowind and Shenmue 2 (ain´t sure it´s a RPG, but whatever!) there ain´t a single RPG on Xbox. It´s the reason the Xbox haven´t done well in Japan

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:48 pm
by ratperson665
Snake700 wrote: there ain´t a single RPG on Xbox. It´s the reason the Xbox haven´t done well in Japan

Not true. The Xbox has KOTOR KOTOR 2, Fable and Jade Empire to name a few.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:01 pm
by Snake Plissken
ratperson665 wrote:
Snake700 wrote: there ain´t a single RPG on Xbox. It´s the reason the Xbox haven´t done well in Japan

Not true. The Xbox has KOTOR KOTOR 2, Fable and Jade Empire to name a few.
Well Japan is more interested in original crafted RPG's. XBOX did fail big time in Japan because it's prime capita gaming majority is made up of first person shooters and sports games (which Japan has no real major interest in compared to North American Markets).

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:47 pm
by hybridtheory
Snake Plissken wrote: Well Japan is more interested in original crafted RPG's. XBOX did fail big time in Japan because it's prime capita gaming majority is made up of first person shooters and sports games (which Japan has no real major interest in compared to North American Markets).
Which is pretty much I seldom play my 360 for a bit. Things should heat up..but not in that kind of way. Har Har Har

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:19 am
by Snake700
ratperson665 wrote:
Snake700 wrote: there ain´t a single RPG on Xbox. It´s the reason the Xbox haven´t done well in Japan

Not true. The Xbox has KOTOR KOTOR 2, Fable and Jade Empire to name a few.
Forgot those games. Otherwise i´m sticking to what i last said

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:37 pm
by Missing
There's no way Europe will be getting a bug-free PS3. Perhaps there'll be fewer bugs than the earlier releases in Japan and North America, but I don't expect Sony to have all the bugs worked out until the console is nearly obsolete. It is Sony after all. I personally wouldn't take those chances with a $600 console, unless it came with a lifetime guarantee (ha!). I'm getting a Wii, just because I know Nintendo actually manufactures their products with care.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:53 pm
by Marc
I have to say, I've never had a problem with a Sony console. I always unplug my consoles when I'm not using them. Maybe that extra heat has something to do with it.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:56 pm
by Gaff
The only problems I've had with Sony is disc read errors.

I'd get them all the time on my old PS2 when I tried to run Gran Turismo 4.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:25 pm
by Marc
Did you leave yours plugged in or on standby when you weren't using it?

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:43 pm
by Gaff
Osiris wrote:Did you leave yours plugged in or on standby when you weren't using it?
Yeah, always on standby. Why?

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:11 pm
by 8bitsonic
Missing wrote:Nintendo actually manufactures their products with care.
Is that so?

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:05 am
by Marc
Gaff wrote:
Osiris wrote:Did you leave yours plugged in or on standby when you weren't using it?
Yeah, always on standby. Why?
I suspect that might be causing many peoples' problems (the first PS1's disc skipping was caused by not unplugging it after use). Try switching consoles off in future and unplugging them, especially for anyone planning on buying a PS3.

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:24 am
by Gaff
Damn, that's pretty ridiculous on Sony's part if you ask me. Why even incorporate a standby mode if all it does in the long run is knacker up your disc reading capabilities?

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:42 am
by Marc
I don't know why, either, but I recommend people do it. I think it's a pretty useless feature anyway. It only takes a couple more seconds to plug it in, turn it on at the back, and open the tray than it does to just open the tray, and you might be saving yourself more trouble in the long run. It's not like a PC where you can leave it running forever and never have a problem, unfortunately.

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:41 am
by Snake700
Osiris wrote:
Gaff wrote:
Osiris wrote:Did you leave yours plugged in or on standby when you weren't using it?
Yeah, always on standby. Why?
I suspect that might be causing many peoples' problems (the first PS1's disc skipping was caused by not unplugging it after use). Try switching consoles off in future and unplugging them, especially for anyone planning on buying a PS3.
I always have my PS2 on standby and i never had a problem with it

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:59 am
by Marc
I know other people just like you. Who knows, there might be differences between all the various versions of the console? My point is, the safest thing to do is to always unplug it when you're not using it.

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:42 pm
by Snake700
Osiris wrote:I know other people just like you. Who knows, there might be differences between all the various versions of the console? My point is, the safest thing to do is to always unplug it when you're not using it.
Why?